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 Naslov: "Loše tekućine" i tekućine potencijalno krive za pucanje
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Pozz modu, ne znam gdje bi stavio, ali mislim da je koristan text, pod loše se misli na one koje imaju Triacetin
pa bih molio možda u 2 dijela, pošto je dugačak, ili premjestit gdje već treba :
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My aim is to compile a list of juice and flavorings that may cause problems as far as cracking, fogging, or etching polycarbonate tanks. Anything listed here may cause your polycarbonate tank to be damaged. I am primarily focused on the polycarbonate tanks, although this info may apply to other tanks.

I am certainly not attempting to ban any flavors or ejuices. I'm just trying to help out some folks who continue use polycarbonate tank systems.

***Most, if not all, polycarbonate plastic by nature uses BPA in its manufacturing You can read about BPA leaching from plastics. Just google BPA. IMHO, it's just another good reason to move away from polycarbonate material.

Polypropylene is my personal choice for tank tubing because it it inexpensive and durable. This is the same material that is used to make syringes. Polypropylene tubing can be purchased here: McMaster-Carr. You can use 5/8"id x 3/4od for Liquinator tanks, Lil mama tanks, Big daddy tanks, Jtanks, and others. This tubing has a very slight curve to it, but will not be noticeable when cut to a short length. You can see a pic of a tank I made using this tubing with Liquinator endcaps here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ ... -tank.html

The popular DCTanks can now be found made from polypropylene tubing. Polypropylene will not crack from a chemical reaction from using juices on this list. For some reason, most vendors are not stating the fact that these are made from polypropylene. IMO this is an excellent selling point that they are missing... These tanks can be used with some XL cartos, or they can be easily cut down to fit a standard sized carto, my personal preference, since I have a few dozen tanks, and I can't afford the pricier ones.

Glass tanks are also a wonderful alternative.

I am personally not familiar with the Vision Stardust type tanks or any of the clearomizer types. From what I hear, they are polycarbonate and folks seem to be having the same issues with cracking/frosting. I am also not familiar personally with Vivi Nova's, since I have found my happy place with polypropylene DCTanks.

All of the ejuice/flavors listed below have been reported by at least one ecf member to cause problems for them. YMMV.

Some of these are premixed juices, some are flavorings that DIY'ers use. Contributions have been made by myself and other members. So far we have:

Here is the list. Everything listed here has caused someone a problem with a polycarbonate tank. Some have reported no issues whatsoever with some of these juices/flavorings. Use at your own risk with polycarbonate tanks.


Alien Vision Cravelope
Alien Vision Pineapple Pulp
AVE Hype
Cinnamon like "atomic cinnamon" types, not warm cinnamon like cinnamon coffee cake, this is okay
Citrus acid
Clove oil
Cola(because of cinnamon)?
Decadent Vapors Bubblegum
Dekang Pina Colada/Tobacco mixed
DIY Flavorshack Tangerine
DIY Gummibear(melted plastic endcaps on DCTank).
E liquids that contain triacetin, used in vg liquids to carry flavor more effectively
Ecblends Apple Pie
Ecblends Banana
Ecblends Cinnamon Apple
ECBlends Gingerbread, double flavor
ECBlends Grape
ECBlends Rootbeer
Ectoplasm
Elixirliquids Cinnamon Death
Elixirliquids Deathday Cake
Elixirliquids Gummibear
Elixirliquids Heaven and Hell(cinnamon with menhtol)
Elixirliquids Rage(hot cinnamon)
FA Lemon Sicily Flavoring
FA Tiramisu
Flavor West Ecto Cooler at 12% with 5% TPA Hawaiin Punch(diy mixture)
Flavor West Mojito Flavoring
Fuzion Vapor Gumby's Blood
Ginger's Fireball
HellaVapor's Raspberry Winta-green
High Brow Vapes Orange De Sangre(peeling on inside of tank)
High Desert Vapes Ecto Cooler
High Desert Vapes Applewood Tobacco
Honeysuckle
KBV Hummingbird Nectar
Lorann Butter Rum flavor
Lorann Butterscotch Flavoring
Lorann Horehound Flavoring
Lorann Peppermint oil
Mad Murdock's Radiator Pluid
MadVapes Black Licorice
Malic acid
Mimosa(because of the orange)
Mountain Oak Vapors Red Drop
Mrs. T's Apple Crumble
Mrs. T's Apple Pie with Ice Cream
Mrs. T's Kickin' Pineapple
Mrs. T's Snickerdoodle
Mrs. T's Strawberry Lemonade
Mrs. T's Strawberry Shortcake
Mt. Baker Vapor Arnold Palmer
Mt. Vapor Cola
Mt. Baker Vapor Cream Soda
Mt. Baker Vapor Marachino Cherry
Mt. Baker Strawberry Lemonade
Mt. Baker Vapor says not to use their Amaretto, Cinnamon, Citrus flavors, Mt. Dew, Sweet Tarts, Green Apple, Ginger, and Lavender in plastic tanks
Mt. Dew flavoring
Mt. Vapor's Lemonade(endcaps melted)
My Vape Store Cinnabun
Neon Vapors Neon Cherry
Nutmeg
Oil based/e liquid that conains essential oils, when mixed with.pg/vg, creates esters which will crack plastics
Pluid
Rawrvapor Antidote
Rawrvapor AuRaWRa
Rawrvapor Banapple
Rawrvapor Hawaii Sunrise
Rawrvapor Strapple
RxVapor Bugatti
Sassafras
Smokeless Image Banana Nut Bread Liquid from From Smokeless image
Sour flavors
Tasty Vapor Atomic Cinnicide
Tasty Vapor Cherry Cola
Tasty Vapor Sherbet
Timmy's Double Double from Juicy Clear
TPA Blueberry Candy(melted plastic endcaps on DCTank)
TPA Blueberry(melted plastic endcaps on DCTank)
TPA Cherry Blossom flavoring
TPA Cinnamon Danish flavoring
TPA Earl Gray Tea flavoring
TPA Holiday Spice flavoring
TPA Honeysuckle flavoring
TPA Lemon Lime flavoring
TPA Maraschino Cherry flavoring
TPA Pineapple flavoring
TPA Ripe Banana flavoring
TPA Rootbeer Flavoring
TPA RY4 Double Flavoring
TPA Spearmint flavoring
TPA Sweettarts
TPA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream flavoring
TPA Vanilla Custard flavoring
V2Cig's Menthol
V4L WOW Peppermint Nobacco
VAL Goddess
Vapalicious Gooey Butter Cake.
Vape Dude's Lemonade
VaporGod Black Cherry
VaporGod Spearmint
Vapor Renu Cherry Crush
Vapor Renu Marlboro, Lavender, Pink Lemonade
Vapor Renu Mt. Dew Baha Blast and Strawberry Limeade
Vapor Renu Mt Dew Code Red
Vapor Renu Teaberry, Cherry Vanilla (possibly most of their flavors)
Vaporbomb Fire 'n Ice(cracked tank, melted rubber drip tip)
Vaporbomb Green Apple
Vaporbomb Hot Cinnamon Candy
Vaporbomb Sun Kissed
Vaporbomb Sweet Cherry
Vaporbomb Sweet Cinnamon Red Hots
Vaporgod Licorice
Vapor Room Cinnamon Red Hots
Virgin Vapor Luscious Lime
Virgin Vapor Sweet Summer Lemonade
Vixen Vapor RH Candy Cane
Vixen Vapor Rootbeer
Wintergreen juice or flavoring
Ziquid Zenthol

This list was reported on the thread. I'm not sure if it's Flavor Art or Flavor West, but the following e liquids may break your plastic tank based system.

Absinthe
Amaretto
Apricot
Arnold Palmer
Big Red Soda
Black Licorice
Black Rock
Blood Orange
Cider Fire
Cinnamon
Cinnamon Hot Tamale
Cinnamon Red Hot
Creme De Menthe
Dr. Pepper
Ecto Cooler
Ginger Ale
Ginger
Green Apple
Key Lime
Lavender
Lemonade
Lightning
Mango
Mango Tea
Maraschino Cherry
Monster Bash
Monster
Morning Vape
Mt. Dew
Orange
Orange Ice
Peach
Pineapple
Pineapple Peach
Pink Lemonade
Rad Energy
Razzle Dazzle
Rock Star
Root Beer
Ruby Red Grapefruit
Sassafras
Solar Flare
Sweet Tarts
Tangerine
Venom
White Out
Yellow Ice


Perfumer's Apprentice lists triactetin as in ingredient in some of their flavors, so be sure to check that out. Triacetin has caused problems for many members.

Disclaimer: These are not "bad" juices. They just have the potential to cause cracking in tank systems using polycarbonate tubing.

Thanks to ECF Veteran member Stosh for alphabetizing it

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PSA: How to stop tank-cracking e-liquids from cracking/etching/melting plastic/polycarbonate tanks.

Answer: Use only glass tanks. Problem solved.

I realize that top coil tanks have their advantages for non-variable voltage batteries and that there is no such thing as a top-coil glass tank/clearomizer (not that I'm aware of anyway) but I'd rather be safe and use a glass bottom coil tank. Plastic is yesterday's news. Glass is the only way to go anymore.

For those newbies who got duped into buying a starter kit with a plastic tank, I hear you, it sucks. But life is full of expenses which we have to experience and learn from. Move on and buy a glass tank.

As far as your options for small eGo threaded clearos...

-Aspire K1 - full glass tank

-Aspire ET-S Glass (make sure it is the glass version of the ET-S as they make a, ET-S plastic version as well. The ET-S glass isn't a fully glass tank, just glass windows. The rest is metal.)

-Kanger EVOD Glass ( just like the ET-S Glass, thi sis nto a fully glass tank, just glass windows on a metal tank. Be sure the tank etching says "EVOD GLASS". The EVOD2 looks exactly the same but the windows are plastic.

-Kanger Mini Protank 3 - another full glass tank.



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sve to znamo već odavno, da si malo pronjuškao po forumu znao bi. ali svejedno...hvala na prilično beskorisnoj informaciji. tak se digla bila i panika oko diacetyla...
da...plastika puca i loš je materijal za naše potrebe. nevjerojatno ali istinito. staklo isto, ali samo ako ga ja vozim u torbici na biciklu. metal ne puca, što je isto nevjerojatna činjenica za koju treba ići na fakultet.
daj napiši još da ti smeta to što para pada i da bi da se diže...

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Evo, ovdje nije žuto :mrgreen:

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Offtheset8 je napisao:
I collected the tastiest types of ice-cream all over the world, you never guess which country is the most developed in this way http://skywritingservice.com/blog/what-are-the-most-popular-types-of-ice-cream

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I can tell you whose brain is not developed...interested?

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Ovako izgleda plastični tank od phenomenona nakon jednog tanka gulag summera :joj:
Još si mislim ma neće valjda, al jbg....

Eto, ako baš ne morate nemojte testirati gulag na plastičnim tankovima.


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krivo. ne branim gulag, vec mi niti jedan plasticni tank osim phenomenona, erlkonigina i tafuna gs nije pucao od apsolutno bilo cega, pa niti od cistih mentol kristala. oddy plasticni tank ne racunam...to nije od plastike vec od kartona koji iz daljine podsjeca na plastiku.
naravno, ima agresivnijih aroma...to stoji, ali glavni krivac je tu krivi izbor proizvodjaca sto se materijala tice...a plastika od phenomenona je kriminalno losa.
govorim o klonu...original nema tih problema.

generalno gledajuci, sve arome koje imaju jake zacine tipa anis, djumbir i slicno...kao i citrusi te mentoli su agresivnije. korisnik mora toga biti svjestan.

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